Awake is about to go back into production, but first we want to solve the bugs.
Frankly, I want to remove a bunch of the tools that were really ‘conceptual’ rather than useful, and then put in a bunch of the other IP we have.
Some questions:
- Is there an interest in a port of any of this to AE, Nuke etc?
- Any interest in a general purpose optical flow technology as a part of awake?
December 2, 2010 | Chris Bond
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Not for me. Having some common tools available between AE, Nuke, and Fusion doesn’t help if all the other tools aren’t.
And the OFX route is not one you want to take, it’s a horrible mess. Maybe you guys could make it work, but heck, if the Foundry can’t, then I don’t hold out much hope. -
Yes. But what I don’t want is a closed system of tools. I want a toolkit that we can use to make all sorts of things. Both the Foundry and Re:Vision have the former, and it’s very annoying to use. Pixel Farm was supposed to have the latter, but I don’t think it ever came to market. We switched from Shake to Fusion before Shake had optical flow, so I can’t comment on those. But the idea is that I want to use optical flow tools (and pattern/shape matching in general) to do whatever, be it object removal, stabilizing, disparity maps, retiming, noise reduction, etc. We’ve hacked together some of Re:Vision’s stuff to do this, but it’s sloppy and slow. Too much redundant processing and too many operations sealed inside the tools. It wasn’t until this summer that De:Noise finally got the ability to read in motion vectors as opposed to generating them internally. That’s nuts.
It would be grand if you could support more of the new native features of Fusion, like ROIDS, Fuses, etc.
December 2, 2010 | Chad Capeland
Yes there would definitely be interest and I can make some suggestions about potential new tool or tool refinement for Nuke. No doubt it would also be very interesting to AE people, for example I don’t think it has any kind of stereo workflow at all.
January 10, 2011 | Chris Harvey
I guess the usefulness (and thus market value) would depend on what those “other IP” entail. Like the existing stereo tools might be very helpful in AE, as Chris says, but for Nuke or Fusion users, it’s not. Likewise, Nuke already has lens distortion tools, so those wouldn’t be as valuable there.
3D scene/mesh caching BETWEEN Nuke, Fusion, and AE (and heck, 3ds max, maya, xsi, too) would be really useful, though. Fusion has a 3D particle system. Maybe implements Frost style meshing? Hmmm… I don’t know what else the “other IP” might be, so it’s hard to speculate.
January 10, 2011 | Chad Capeland
I always liked Awake’s defocus tools especially piping custom shapes into it for Bukeh faking. I miss that in AFX so i would not mind a portation at all
Nuke now has a 3d particle system too and will have VRay support in the near future. Can Awake pipe into that?
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